Curse

some_dude_91 · Sep 16, 2006, 05:35 AM // 05:35

I think that it would be really cool to have a place to bet weapons or gold. of course you can already bet people for guild skirmish... but they are not always trust worthy when it comes to giving up their pride and joy weapon. I think there should be either a place like the wilderness in Runescape, or just an arena that you place bets at an NPC and search for an opponent. What do you all think?

Scavenger Rage · Sep 16, 2006, 06:52 AM // 06:52

What would we do about customized then?!

But anyway...i like the idea of "pinksliping" in Guild Wars ^^

Latter.

bigwig · Sep 16, 2006, 07:12 AM // 07:12

yes, lets promote gambling to children! I'm on board!

/signed with extra enthusiasm

neorampage · Sep 16, 2006, 08:30 AM // 08:30

/signed

kurtas · Sep 16, 2006, 09:01 AM // 09:01

/signed

Kai Nui · Sep 16, 2006, 10:05 AM // 10:05

/signed

We have observer mode, why not. Saying it promotes gambling isn't a big issue as it is just a game. If you think that adding gambling would upset people too much, get a life and realize that you're killing people in this game.

I say definitely add this, we need something else to do with our time, it'd make observer mode spicier.

What Now Homie · Sep 16, 2006, 12:31 PM // 12:31

/signed

Tien ak · Sep 16, 2006, 03:05 PM // 15:05

You do know this won't get put in you know why?

Well they had to change one of the bird pets as it effended people and they also couldn't add pets in the game as people could kill them and they were endangered species.

Personaly I find that really funny "No don't kill the panda their rare as it is! boo hoo hoo"

So imagine how many christians will go against this as it's their relgion not to gamble. Also teaching kids to gamble isn't the way to go though this idea reminded me of a paticualr advert from GTA san adreas.

Josh · Sep 16, 2006, 03:07 PM // 15:07

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Originally Posted by Tien ak

You do know this won't get put in you know why?

Well they had to change one of the bird pets as it effended people and they also couldn't add pets in the game as people could kill them and they were endangered species.

Personaly I find that really funny "No don't kill the panda their rare as it is! boo hoo hoo"

So imagine how many christians will go against this as it's their relgion not to gamble. Also teaching kids to gamble isn't the way to go though this idea reminded me of a paticualr advert from GTA san adreas.

But teaching kids to kill people is? ;\

logan90 · Sep 16, 2006, 03:39 PM // 15:39

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I dont see why they wouldnt do it as they already introduced alcohol into the game. Gambling is a step below alcohol so it shouldnt be a problem. Also, that whole thing about them changing stuff because it offends people(such as the bird/panda) doesnt make sense. Having alcohol in the game may offend parents, but they havnt removed that have they.. And there are other endangered pets in GW which could be offensive if someone killed it but those remain unedited.

So yeah, gambling would be good. It would be better if it included poker though. lol. Have a whole casino! A new way to make money which would actually be fun.. or possibly a fun way to lose money.

OH i just remembered.. Gambling was already introduced into the game with the circles "stand there while afk" game during the dragon festival.. So it shouldnt be a problem for them adding it really as they obviously wouldnt mind adding gambling to the game.

AJM · Sep 16, 2006, 03:55 PM // 15:55

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Originally Posted by Josh

But teaching kids to kill people is? ;\

That's a much greater difference. You can very accurately recreate gambling on a computer, the only difference here would be you don't use real money. It's like gambling with Monopoly money.

There is, however, a much bigger difference between clicking somewhere so some pixels will 'stab' some other pixels, and actually taking a knife and stabbing somebody. A huge difference. I'm just tired of that argument. Guild Wars will not turn kids into bloodthirsty warriors, just like Counterstrike will not turn them into terrorists. They'll be too busy playing Guild Wars and Counterstrike for that stuff.

Besides, if you go kill a bunch of people in real life (which would be hard, I have yet to see a video game that would make someone noticably more accurate with a firearm, or deadly with a hand-to-hand weapon) but many that would make them less so), you'll get arrested or killed by the authorities. You only get one life in the real world, and you can't save and load.

Guild Wars does not teach anyone how to kill. Looking at my warrior do a 360 while hitting with his sword (thereby leaving himself wide open), I could argue that it could only teach them how to be completely inept at doing so.

This gambling thing, however... it would promote it. I can entirely see kids saying 'hey, this is fun on GW, I wanna do it for real!' and starting to gamble with real money, which, I might add, can be as addictive as cigarettes (or so I've heard. I'm scared to go back to Vegas now).

If GW did not do that, then they would not be so inclined to start (well, they might where I am, Vegas is a day away, there seems to be a Native American casino everywhere, and most of them advertise on radio, but they'd have to be adults to get in, anyway). Some kids are very impressionable, and I would hate to see them think that gambling in real life is just like gambling in a game. It only seems like it, until all your money is gone and you're in debt.

Better safe than sorry.

/not signed

Zuranthium · Sep 16, 2006, 04:40 PM // 16:40

Horrible reasoning. Video Games give people an imaginary outlet to do things they otherwise couldn't. If someone has a real life gambling problem it is due to their Psychology, NOT because of a game. In fact, being able to do something like this in games actually diverts some people from doing it in real life.

I think gambling is stupid and never do it myself, but that doesn't mean other people can't enjoy it safely.

AJM · Sep 16, 2006, 05:02 PM // 17:02

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Originally Posted by Zuranthium

Horrible reasoning. Video Games give people an imaginary outlet to do things they otherwise couldn't. If someone has a real life gambling problem it is due to their Psychology, NOT because of a game. In fact, being able to do something like this in games actually diverts some people from doing it in real life.

I think gambling is stupid and never do it myself, but that doesn't mean other people can't enjoy it safely.

I have horrible reasoning? You said "Video Games give people an imaginary outlet to do things they otherwise couldn't". That's true, but gambling is something people can do. It is foolish to believe that fake gambling can't lead to real gambling. If this was an argument against violence in video games, I'd be on your side, because I do believe your outlet theory is true for violence.

But we aren't talking about violence. We aren't talking about video game violence leading to real violence, which is ridiculous. We're talking about gambling with fake money leading to gambling with real money, which is entirely plausible.

As for your comment of "If someone has a real life gambling problem it is due to their Psychology", I find it offensive. You are implying that people who become addicted to gambling have something 'wrong' with them, aside from the addiction itself. That they are inferior. That comment wreaks of bigotry.

You do not need to have a certain 'psychology' to become a problem gambler. That is a factor, but to say its the determining factor is asinine.